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Propeller Characteristics Table

PROPELLER
MAKE & MODEL

AIRCRAFT &
ENGINE ELIGIBILITY

PROPELLER
CHARACTERISTICS

Hartzell
PHC-C3YF-1RF/F8068
PHC-G3YF-1RF/F8068
PHC-J3YF-1RF/F8068
Three blades - 80”/ 82”
Diameter

Cessna 180-All
Cessna 182-182H
Cessna 205
Cessna 206
Cessna 207
Cessna 210
O-470-K, L, R, S, U
O-470-U/TS
O-520-F/TS
O-520-U/TS
O-550-F/TS
IO-550-D
IO-550-F

The new Buccaneer propeller is one of the latest designed propellers from Hartzell. Although the blade diameter is greater than the 78” Scimitar, the noise profile is almost identical to the super quiet Scimitar. The blade cord is greater than the Scimitar and therefore offers greater thrust for takeoff/climb and also good thrust and speed for higher altitudes, even turbo charged aircraft. The “C” hub is designed for cowlings that are short whereas the “G” hub has a one inch extension for later designed cowlings. The late models of C206, C207 and C210’s use the J hub with a 4.5” extension for a perfect fit.

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Buccaneer Propeller Brochure 1PDF
Buccaneer Propeller Brochure 2PDF

Hartzell PHC-G3YF-
1RF/F7691
Three blades - 78”
Diameter

Cessna180/182-All
O-470-K, L, R, S, U
O-470-U/TS
O-520-F/TS
O-550-F/TS

Extended hub offers excellent fit & appearance for Cessna 182 models with extended nose cowling, 182 H thru R. Not recommended for 180’s or 182 thru G.  Blade diameter of only 78” & Scimitar design offers less noise & more speed than conventional designs

Hartzell PHC-C3YF-
1RF/F7691
Three blades - 78”
Diameter

Cessna 180-All
Cessna 182-H
O-470-K, L, R, S, U
O-470-U/TS
O-520-F/TS
O-550-F/TS

The perfect fit for Cessna 180 & 182-182G aircraft with- out extended nose cowling. The short hub design brings the spinner closer to the cowling for better appearance Blade diameter of only 78” & Scimitar design offers more speed, more ground clearance & less noise than conventional design.  

Hartzell PHC-G3YF-
1RF/F8468
Three blades - 80”
Diameter

Cessna 182-H thru R
O-520-F/TS
O-550-F/TS

Extended hub offers excellent fit & appearance for Cessna 182 models with extended nose cowling, 182 H thru R. Not recommended for 180’s or 182’s thru G. “Top Prop” blade design offers excellent climb & very good cruise when attached to a 520 or 550 C.I. engine.

Hartzell PHC-C3YF-
1RF/F8468
Three blades - 80”
Diameter

Cessna 180-A thru K
Cessna 182-H
O-520-F/TS
O-550-F/TS

The perfect fit for Cessna 180 & 182-182G aircraft without extended nose cowling. The short hub design brings the spinner closer to the cowling for better appearance. “Top Prop” blade design offers excellent climb & very good cruise when attached to a 520 or 550 C.I. engine.

McCauley
D2A34C401C/90DFA-2
Three blades - 88”
Diameter

Cessna 180 All
O-520-F/TS
O-550-F/TS

Ideal for all Cessna 180’s, especially for float planes. Greater initial thrust for quicker lift off & yet has good cruise speed when attached to a 520 or 550 C.I. engine.

McCauley
D3A34C401C/90DFA-10
Three blades - 80”
Diameter

Cessna 180 / 182 All
O-520-F/TS
O-550-F/TS

A very good all around prop for all Cessna 180 & 182 aircraft. A choice of two spinners offers very nice appearance for all 180 & 182 aircraft. 80” blade diameter offers good ground clearance, low noise & good takeoff & cruise performance.

McCauley D2A34C204
Two Blade - 82"
Diameter

Cessna 180 / 182 -All
O-470-U 230 HP
O-470-U/TS 250HP

This prop offers excellent short field characteristics & respectable cruise. In most cases, the original McCauley spinner will fit to retain the same basic appearance. Not approved for 520 or 550 C.I. engines, but an excellent choice for the 230 & 250 HP engines.

McCauley B2A37C238
Two Blade - 82"-86"
Diameter

Cessna 182 - 86"
O-520-F/TS 280 HP
O-550-F/TS 285 HP

This new design two blade prop is especially made for the 520 & 550 engines having greater horsepower. The 86" is recommended for the Cessna 180 & 182's on floats or those with large nose gears & tires. The 86" will have excessive tip erosion when used on a standard Cessna 182. The 86" offers excellent takeoff & climb performance. The cruise speed is close, but not quite as good as the Hartzell Scimitar. Cabin noise is surprisingly low. Outside noise is surprising. Yes, it is loud. The 82" will be a good prop for a Cessna 182. Cruise speed will be about the same as a three blade McCauley 401. Take off will be about the same as the Hartzell Scimitar. Climb & cruise is almost the same as the Scimitar.
Both 86" & 82" props are extremely smooth in operation.

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A Bit of Understanding about Propellers

Some pilots believe two blade propellers are faster than three or four blade propellers.   Some pilots believe short propellers are faster. Other pilots believe the opposite. The Wright brothers’ airplane had a two blade propeller, while the P-51 of WWII fame had a four blade propeller as does the C-130 Hercules. The Beechcraft Starship has a five-blade propeller.

In designing a propeller for a particular application, several questions should be answered. Torque is what turns the propeller, so we need to know how much torque is available and at what RPM. If for example, maximum torque is developed at 3000 RPM, the tip speed of a very long propeller will be supersonic and probably create more drag than thrust while also having some undesirable effects on the portion of the blade that is just at the speed of sound. If maximum torque is developed at a very low engine RPM, a longer blade may be more desirable, however, ground clearance must be considered and with longer blades there will be more outside noise, but not necessarily more noise in the cockpit. Generally, three and four blade propellers are heavier than a two-blade propeller and will cost more to overhaul.

Another question is what type aircraft is to be propelled through the air? What is the mass of the aircraft? You would not use the same propeller on a 300 HP Mooney or Lancaire that you would use to drive a blimp with a 300 HP engine. At what altitude will the aircraft be traveling? Again, a 300 HP agriculture airplane would not necessarily use the same propeller as a turbocharged aircraft that cruises at a much higher altitude, higher speed, and develops sea level horsepower while doing so.

When selecting a propeller, we should probably start with as few blades as possible to do the job. If we have a lot of horsepower and a tricycle gear airplane, a three-blade propeller would probably be better than a two-blade propeller. Assuming a three-blade propeller is selected, we now look at the airplane to be propelled. Is it a very streamlined airplane with minimum drag or a more bulky design? All three-blade propellers are not the same. Consider long blade, short blade, Q-tip, round tip, Scimitar and conventional.  Some propellers pull the airplane some push and others lift, but they all move air.

Vibration is another consideration of the engineer. I am not referring to the vibration felt in the cockpit, although that is very important, but rather the vibration of the propeller blades themselves. Consider a turbocharged 300 HP engine; with maximum RPM and minimum blade angle for take-off, the power thrust of the engine is somewhat applied to the edge of the propeller blade. The blade vibration at this angle may be very acceptable.

As the airplane moves faster, the propeller governor increases the blade angle in order to maintain a constant RPM. When the airplane is leveled off at high altitude in very thin air, the RPM is reduced to cruise power setting, by increasing the blade angle. The power thrust of the engine is then more toward the flat side of the blade. The vibration of the blade may be such that the blade will fail. So, a propeller that is good for a non-turbocharged engine may not be good for a turbocharged engine. That is why each propeller must be vibrationally approved for each engine and airframe application. A propeller blade may be twisted at one point of the blade for an agriculture aircraft and the same blade twisted at another point for a turbocharged high performance aircraft.

Texas Skyways has FAA approval for six different models of three blade propellers. All have different characteristics. They will perform differently on the same aircraft. We recently sold a gentleman an 82-inch propeller to replace his obsolete 88-inch propeller.  At cruise power the aircraft was about six miles per hour faster. The more modern design, with the maximum thrust from the blade where it should be, made the difference.   Generally speaking, aircraft engines develop maximum torque at about 2400 RPM. Yes, there are many variations. Assuming 2400 RPM to deliver maximum torque, the propeller should be designed to give the maximum thrust at 2400 RPM to achieve the best cruise. Take off performance may not be as good as another propeller with a different twist in the blades. Different strokes for different folks and different blades for different planes.

The engineers at the two major companies that manufacture propellers for general aviation aircraft really know what they are doing. They are continuously designing more propellers to do a better job for the customers.

Texas Skyways sells propellers as well as engines. We recommend the propeller that we believe will be the most beneficial to the customer. However, we often suggest that our customers try various models of propellers before making the final decision. “Fly before you buy.” When asked about propellers by people considering purchasing a new model propeller, we suggest that they go to their favorite propeller shop and ask for a free demonstration. There reason is - there is no “one for all” propeller.

Ask yourself a lot of questions. Then ask the propeller shop. Call the factory. They have sales people with a lot of good advice. Then “fly before you buy.”

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